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What's the difference between an Environment Group and Group?

asked 2014-01-29 10:07:52 -0500

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updated 2014-09-28 11:05:05 -0500

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I'm planning to do a Fedora 20 minimal install (CLI) and build it up so it ends up with a GUI (similar to how a beginner's install of Arch goes). I do a yum grouplist and under Available environment groups is the Basic Desktop group.

$ yum grouplist
Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
Available environment groups:
   GNOME Desktop
   KDE Plasma Workspaces
   Xfce Desktop
   LXDE Desktop
   Cinnamon Desktop
   MATE Desktop
   Sugar Desktop Environment
   Development and Creative Workstation
   Web Server
   Infrastructure Server
   Basic Desktop
   Minimal Install

I wanted to see what's in Basic Desktop so I did a yum groupinfo "Basic Desktop" and I got a puzzling result.

$ yum groupinfo "Basic Desktop"
Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit

Environment Group: Basic Desktop
 Environment-Id: basic-desktop-environment
 Description: X Window System with a choice of window manager.
 Mandatory Groups:
    base-x
   +basic-desktop
    core
    dial-up
    fonts
    guest-desktop-agents
    hardware-support
    multimedia
    standard
 Optional Groups:
   +cinnamon-desktop
    firefox
    gnome-desktop
    input-methods
   +kde-desktop
   +legacy-fonts
    libreoffice
   +lxde-desktop
   +mate-desktop
   +sugar-desktop
   +xfce-desktop
   +xmonad
   +xmonad-mate

Group: Basic Desktop
 Group-Id: basic-desktop
 Description: Basic X Window System with a choice of window manager.
 Mandatory Packages:
    adwaita-cursor-theme
    adwaita-gtk2-theme
    adwaita-gtk3-theme
   +awesome
   +dwm
   +fedora-icon-theme
    gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
   +i3
   +initial-setup
   +lightdm
   +metacity
   +openbox
   +ratpoison
   +xmonad-basic

Apparently, there are 2 Basic Desktop groups, one Environment Group and just plain Group. I do understand that installing the Environment Group: Basic Desktop will install the Group: Basic Desktop group as the latter is a mandatory group for the former.

For the sake of knowledge and further understanding of Fedora, I am wondering...

  • ...what the difference is between Environment Group and Group?
  • ...what will be installed when I do a yum groupinstall "Basic Desktop"? Will it be the Environment Group or the Group?
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answered 2014-01-29 14:44:46 -0500

Gileade Oseiass gravatar image

updated 2014-01-29 14:47:56 -0500

[environment(desktop environment) groups] A desktop environment includes all the software needed for a desktop, including a window manager.

Groups designates a set of packets with a purpose to meet a specific need. For example has groups Robotics Lab Security, and Sound, Video System Tools.

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So, I am assuming, that when I do a yum groupinstall "Basic Desktop" then the Environment Group is the one being installed, right?

riclags gravatar imagericlags ( 2014-01-29 18:44:17 -0500 )edit

So, I am assuming, that when I do a yum groupinstall "Basic Desktop" then the Environment Group is the one being installed, right? Yes

Gileade Oseiass gravatar imageGileade Oseiass ( 2014-01-30 00:15:36 -0500 )edit

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