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How to submit feature request, idea to Fedora. Ideas inside.

asked 2015-04-19 14:09:14 -0600

Mike B. gravatar image

updated 2015-04-21 01:58:39 -0600

I'm using Fedora 21 for a couple of weeks and have a «fresh eye» opinion and would like to share my ideas with the Fedora Team/Community. How can I submit the feature request or feedback? I'm not talking about some code contribution, but about some usability & UX related suggestions.

As recommended in the topic comments, I publish the list of these suggestions here:

  1. Hidden by default to minimize, to maximize buttons of the windows. Win, Mac, Ubuntu come with this option enabled out-of-box.
  2. Region & I18N: No ability to change via GUI the first day of the week, select time format (12H/24H). In other systems, I can play with these settings right after the end of the installation process. No need to play with CFGs.
  3. No built-in GUI-based repository management tool, like in Ubuntu.
  4. Almost in every manual "The things to do after Fedora installation" mentioned the Fedy & Gnome Tweak Tool, why to not include them to the distributive by default?
  5. To allow by default to make shortcuts & store the files on the desktop. What is the reason for desktop existence if you can't store the files?!
  6. To add tool which allows to import themes, icons etc.

Please, note all these ideas don't require the code changing, it's just about the system tuning. IMHO, the only reason why systems like Mac OS & Ubuntu have succeeded to conquer their market pie is due to great & polished UX and not because of some cutting edge technology/code. The end-user wants just install and begin to work with the system and not to spent hours for the tuning, playing with configs. So let them do it. Some tiny changes will do a lot.

It's very important to make Linux more end-user-friendly, especially when Windows, deep thanks to 8/8.1/10, is not a leader in UI/UX anymore. We have to offer reliable, well-tuned and ready to go system with minimum of restrictions, derived from the legal point of view (patents, copyrights etc.).

Here are just couple of examples how we can significantly improve the OOBE and save our time and reduce the routine work we have to perform after OS installation. All these things should be part of Human UX Sugar project. Of course, you can say: "OK, but all this stuff is feasible, just open console, type SUDO CD /.../cfg..." but that's the catch, to improve the usability by supplying the polished, ready-to-use product as maximum as possible, which works and requires minimum tuning.

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Believe it or not, others want Fedora to be better too :) Read over https://lists.fedoraproject.org/piper... for tons of similar discussion.

randomuser gravatar imagerandomuser ( 2015-04-21 12:21:05 -0600 )edit

"Your feedback feeds Fedora Workstation"; http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2015-... ; look like your are not the only one which want to provide feedback.

baoboa gravatar imagebaoboa ( 2015-04-29 15:48:58 -0600 )edit
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a common place for suggestions and a voting system would be nice , i propose idea.fedoraproject.org :)

baoboa gravatar imagebaoboa ( 2015-04-29 15:54:33 -0600 )edit

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answered 2015-04-20 00:55:08 -0600

deadrat gravatar image

updated 2015-04-20 01:03:46 -0600

If you want to give feedback or to contribute to fedora, you can get started here.

For providing feedback on the user interface, you may have to get in touch with the team that develops the desktop environment you use. If you have the fedora workstation with GNOME, you may get involved with GNOME. If you use any other fedora spin, you have to contact concerned team.

If you want to give feedback about the installation program, fedora uses Anaconda. You can check here for more on ideas, e.t.c.,

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answered 2015-04-19 18:34:24 -0600

aeperezt gravatar image

Well if you are working with Fedora 21 workstation and your ideas are for UX and usability you need to join Gnome in a team where your can address your inquiries https://www.gnome.org/get-involved/

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What makes you so sure he's using Gnome? I know that Fedora is Gnome-centric, but not everybody uses it.

sideburns gravatar imagesideburns ( 2015-04-19 20:28:42 -0600 )edit

Well, Alejandro assumed that if he is using Fedora Workstation, then he could contribute to Gnome...

skytux gravatar imageskytux ( 2015-04-19 23:18:25 -0600 )edit

My feedback is about the default settings (UI & not only), which comes with Fedora installation.

Mike B. gravatar imageMike B. ( 2015-04-19 23:57:17 -0600 )edit

My point is, that when you install Fedora you don't have to install and use Gnome; I happen to use Xfce, so telling me to join Gnome would be the wrong answer.

sideburns gravatar imagesideburns ( 2015-04-20 01:07:50 -0600 )edit

You are right you do not need to install Gnome when installing Fedora, I asumed he was using Gnome, because this sentence " I'm using Fedora 21 for a couple of weeks " which means he is a new user and assumed install workstation. My bad.

aeperezt gravatar imageaeperezt ( 2015-04-20 08:55:52 -0600 )edit
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answered 2015-04-20 06:54:33 -0600

Mike B. gravatar image

updated 2015-04-21 01:46:34 -0600

Actually I just want to submit a couple of ideas about the initial settings of Fedora, which damage the UX, and it takes additional time to fix it. From other side, other systems come with these settings enabled by default out-of-box.

List:

  1. Hidden by default to minimize, to maximize buttons of the windows. Win, Mac, Ubuntu come with this option enabled out-of-box.
  2. Region & I18N: No ability to change via GUI the first day of the week, select time format (12H/24H). In other systems, I can play with these settings right after the end of the installation process. No need to play with CFGs.
  3. No built-in GUI-based repository management tool, like in Ubuntu.
  4. Almost in every manual "The things to do after Fedora installation" mentioned the Fedy & Gnome Tweak Tool, why to not include them to the distributive by default?
  5. To allow by default to make shortcuts & store the files on the desktop. What is the reason for desktop existence if you can't store the files?!
  6. To add tool which allows to import themes, icons etc.

Here are just couple of examples how we can significantly improve the OOBE and save our time and reduce the routine work we have to perform after OS installation. All these things should be part of Human UX Sugar project. Of course, you can say: "OK, but all this stuff is feasible, just open console, type SUDO CD /.../cfg..." but that's the catch, to improve the usability by supplying the polished, ready-to-use product as maximum as possible, which works and requires minimum tuning.

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@mike-b: +1. I like your ideas. Hope you find the time to suggest it to the Fedora/Gnome developer teams.

florian gravatar imageflorian ( 2015-04-20 09:25:36 -0600 )edit
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The problem is that I don't really know how to submit it. The offered here options don't really allow it. You can either contribute the code, or translation or to be an ambassador, but just there is no button "hey, I just want to suggest... ". Even Google products have such one. Is there any space/thread/blog/mailbox/bug-tracker where I can post it?

Mike B. gravatar imageMike B. ( 2015-04-20 10:48:00 -0600 )edit
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I am with you. I wouldn't know how to submit these suggestions. The thing is that what package/software would have to be modified in your 6-point list, and then need to know who maintains these packages. If it was a single email I would have suggested quite a few improvements to Fedora and Gnome. But as and end-user and not being a Fedora developer I am out when it comes to contribution. I have made the experience that "Get started" or "Contribute" -pages are not very helpful.

florian gravatar imageflorian ( 2015-04-20 21:13:43 -0600 )edit

The best would be to have an email address of some Fedora QA team and of some Gnome QA team and send them the list. But I am not even sure whether the QA team is the right target if they would give feedback to the developers...

florian gravatar imageflorian ( 2015-04-20 21:15:04 -0600 )edit

I think fedora uses GNOME without much modifications. Most of your suggestions are related to GNOME and these are pretty common suggestions to GNOME. For e.g., Linus Torvalds suggested that Frippery and gnome-tweak-tool to be merged into GNOME. But I think the developers likes it this way and they must believe that this is advantageous in some ways. IMHO, I think they are right. GNOME has very clean and simple interface. Not everyone needs tweak tools and minimize buttons. I use my GNOME without the minimize/maximize buttons.

deadrat gravatar imagedeadrat ( 2015-04-21 00:28:58 -0600 )edit
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answered 2015-04-21 15:18:24 -0600

baoboa gravatar image

why not fedoraforum ?

http://www.forums.fedoraforum.org/for...

there are the SIGs too , the desktop one look right for these type of questions

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/D...

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Well official channels are fedora devel list, for Gnome they have their own places to share and contact developers

aeperezt gravatar imageaeperezt ( 2015-04-21 16:16:41 -0600 )edit

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