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Which features do you want in Ask Fedora?

asked 2013-03-12 00:42:11 -0600

mether gravatar image

updated 2014-09-28 17:58:34 -0600

For admins/moderators in this forum, please let me know which features you desire the most. Which bugs or issues in this website affect you? Say a top list of either would be great. I would like to get a good summary so we can prioritize development along those lines

Note: This has nothing to do with Fedora itself. Just this website and more specifically, the software that powers it - askbot.

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@mether, you are doing a great work supporting askfedora site, thx

hhlp gravatar imagehhlp ( 2013-03-12 06:20:08 -0600 )edit

As a fedora fan i would like to see voice search features like you see in apps like the dolphin web browser.

dave240 gravatar imagedave240 ( 2014-03-17 17:00:42 -0600 )edit

Would also be nice to document differences to competitors! The table at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q%26A_s... would use help.

Federico gravatar imageFederico ( 2015-07-25 07:02:20 -0600 )edit

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answered 2013-03-12 05:27:47 -0600

hhlp gravatar image

updated 2013-03-12 10:36:10 -0600

Will be nice if we can implement it in ASKBOT:

Features:

  1. I'm Interesting If is possible to create a group in FAS (Fedora Account System) where mod/admin who have FAS can join to this group).?
  2. Tags Control - we have a lot inappropriate tags and we can't manage, edit , delete or whatever.
  3. Control Spam (this is typically doing by OP with (karma = 1 an post a question in the same day that OP join to the site) also the possibility to protect a question against to spam, user with only (karma >= x) can answer in a protect question.
  4. When you mark a question as duplicate, you have to write a comment point out the question that is duplicate.
  5. How many days a user is active in a round in user profile.
  6. Manage Bounty for a Question.
  7. Meta site where we can manage this type of question.
  8. About post a comment, we can have two ways :
    • a normal comments
    • general comments:
   say Thanks it work for me.
   answer with an URL.
   OP use an answer to provide more information.
   use an answer for request OP more information. (this is cover in convert to comment) 
   I have the same problem.
   Answer The question in a Comment. (this is cover in convert to answer)

Bugs:

Accept and Reject a comment :

  • Accept .- no problem
  • Reject : ask for add new reject reason :

    display the follow screen:

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click on select this reason nothing happen.

click on add new reason, display the follow screen :

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 if you click on use this reason and reject or save reason but no reject display the follow error :

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Hopefully, the duplicate comment would be automatically generated, not just required. Otherwise, it will be painful to mark posts as duplicates, when really we should have more of that (because it helps direct people to existing information).

mattdm gravatar imagemattdm ( 2013-03-12 19:11:33 -0600 )edit

@mattdm: I would love for the duplicate comment to be automatically generated in bugzilla style. I'll file a ticket on this later.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-05 19:56:54 -0600 )edit

Let me add: an attachment facility. :) All your images are gone...

Federico gravatar imageFederico ( 2015-07-25 07:00:45 -0600 )edit
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answered 2013-09-03 11:53:02 -0600

Jann5s gravatar image

updated 2013-09-05 03:53:44 -0600

Slightly more rights for 1 karma users

I'm thinking about the right to comment on answers which are given to their own question.

In your first question, when somebody answers you, but the suggestion didn't work, you cannot reply to the suggestion. Instead, users tend to create an answer of there own, which leads to confusion in the end.

More reasons to close a question

When closing a question, you have to select a reason, which is good, but recently I was missing one particular reason:

  • Question owner no longer interested in the solution

For some questions further input is required to solve the problem, and without the question owner it is impossible to continue.

These are the currently available reasons:

  • duplicate question
  • question os off-topic or not relevant
  • too subjective and argumentative
  • not a real question
  • the question is answered, right answer was accepted
  • question is not relevant or outdated
  • question contains offensive or malicious remarks
  • spam or advertising
  • too localized

Maybe somebody thinks of another one to add.

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I'll see if I can tweak the karma settings for this.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-03 21:31:09 -0600 )edit
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Well, I just checked and there isn't a special setting for commenting on one's own posts yet. However, the threshold is 10, which one can gain by something as simple as an upvote to the asked question. Therefore, if you ask someone for details, you can reward them by upvoting their question and in the process give them commenting rights.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-03 21:41:23 -0600 )edit

I think your right, 10 points is something easily obtained (if you ask a proper question!)

Jann5s gravatar imageJann5s ( 2013-09-04 02:45:52 -0600 )edit
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Yes people have to get the habit to upvote a question that is answering. And in general to upvote questions.

Andre Ferreira gravatar imageAndre Ferreira ( 2013-09-04 10:17:03 -0600 )edit
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+1 for more accessible comments. -1 for "user is no longer interested in answer" questions and answers benefit more than just the original user. Even in cases where an incidental problem needs logs or error message, usage of such a close reason would reinforce the practice of asking a new question every time instead of looking for existing answers.

randomuser gravatar imagerandomuser ( 2013-09-05 15:44:40 -0600 )edit
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answered 2013-09-03 13:30:10 -0600

aeperezt gravatar image

I'm not admin here but we love to have some localized size to serve better people on other languages.

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@aeperezt: I've already told you this needs an askbot update. If you're willing to help out, please contact us on the infra list. This requires packing up a git snapshot and updating all dependencies to django 1.4 as far as I remember. This is a lot of work and I do not have cycles to cover this by myself. Any help is welcome, as usual.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-03 17:00:48 -0600 )edit
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@FranciscoD_ I wonder about if this list is this one here. I just subscribed to it. If can be of any use on helping.

Andre Ferreira gravatar imageAndre Ferreira ( 2013-09-03 19:13:52 -0600 )edit
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That's the list yes. The related ticket for multilingual support is here: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3818

You'll have to join the infra team as documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-03 21:35:04 -0600 )edit

I see some last names, hispanics? then check this: http://preguntaen.proyectofedora.org/

davidva gravatar imagedavidva ( 2013-09-06 01:16:37 -0600 )edit
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answered 2013-03-14 00:31:08 -0600

certified answers!

I'm not an admin here, but I do have a feature request:

Ask Fedora is proving to be a great resource for user support. Along the way, I think we have an opportunity not only solve the users' problems, but to guide them in best practices. Some answers may work, but just aren't the best way - the obvious examples of disabling SELinux or firewalls come to mind.

Providing a mechanism for trusted contributors to make a distinction between functional and optimal solutions adds to the quality of the site as a whole. Comprehensive answers can more reliably be referenced when marking questions as duplicates or as references, cutting down on confusion and clutter. Users can be more confident following an answer, with the knowledge that the solution has been verified to some degree and stamped with some kind of authority.

Some badging could be added around the concept, to provide incentive for writing quality answers.

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This is hard to accomplish but is easy to implement, that is why askbot was implemented, the solution is very simple that why down and up vote come to our help, and also use comment, I refer you to my comment about Bucic req.

hhlp gravatar imagehhlp ( 2013-03-14 11:16:20 -0600 )edit
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The answer from Bucic does address the same issue - quality control - just in a different way. Putting a stamp of approval on an answer is positive reinforcement, and deleting bad advice is negative reinforcement. I think they are both good ways to improve the quality of the site. Upvoting or downvoting provides the same kinds of reinforcement, but would really require a lot more participation to be effective.

randomuser gravatar imagerandomuser ( 2013-03-14 19:41:27 -0600 )edit
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Any 'certification' would be obsolete if the the voting had worked like intended i.e. if we'd put more pressure on voting. Why? Because answers from trusted contributors would have few times more votes than sloppy answers and bad or even harmful answers, which could easily be left there hanging with negative votes. Authors of such answers should remove them themselves not to get more negative votes. Voting encouragement is the key to many issues with ask.fedora.

Bucic gravatar imageBucic ( 2013-09-04 05:54:48 -0600 )edit

I think there's plenty of encouragement to vote. People not doing it is a completely different story. How many of your 50 votes per day do you use?

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-05 19:55:57 -0600 )edit

@FranciscoD_ Every time is see a valuable answer (even if not THE answer) or even a comment. What encouragement? I know of none. Once you acquired basic rights there's no need to. I do it because I come from askubuntu, however weird it may sound :) Also, there are answers with 4,000+ views and 3 upvotes or so. I personally don't need any other evidence that voting does not work.

Bucic gravatar imageBucic ( 2013-09-06 05:14:01 -0600 )edit
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answered 2013-09-05 18:30:45 -0600

chrisroberts gravatar image

Auto close of questions that have not been answered in a few years, more than likely that person has moved on from their problem or has figured out a solution elsewhere.

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This will also need to be implemented upstream in askbot. Please file a ticket at http://askbot.org/en/questions

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-05 19:48:09 -0600 )edit

You can use the askfedora and rfe tags there. We use the askfedora tag to track tickets that we've opened. Thanks.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-05 19:49:52 -0600 )edit
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answered 2014-01-16 04:23:33 -0600

cyberjar09 gravatar image

Ability to get archived email of the week's top activity

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answered 2013-09-03 11:41:03 -0600

Andre Ferreira gravatar image

updated 2013-09-04 10:02:30 -0600

I'm not an admin here too but I just want to know how far have those feature requests being worked out?

Just comparing with stackexchange with askbot I can understand that the last is simpler although doesn't loose its efficiency.

stackoverflow

askfedora

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What is missing in tagging?

30 karma is required to post clickable links and 10 to insert links as plain text. This is designed to limit link spamming by new users and makes sense to me.

You need 5 karma to flag a question which can be earned when you earn an upvote, either on a comment or on a question.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-03 21:46:12 -0600 )edit

@FranciscoD_ thanks for the explanation You made the things more clear to me. Altough I would like to post links at once 10 requirement is reasonable. There are so many more options here but I am starting to get the big picture. The only thing that remains is flagging is just about offensive stuff? Can I flag regarding bad question formulation ? Or questions that have answers but answer is in comments?

Andre Ferreira gravatar imageAndre Ferreira ( 2013-09-04 09:56:11 -0600 )edit
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Flagging is generally to be used for spam etc. In other cases, you can convert comments to answers and vice versa when you have enough karma. If you don't have the karma, please comment asking folks to use the correct places for comments and answers. I do run around converting comments to answers and vice versa but itll be nice if more folks with enough karma would do it too. It's something I expect to happen in good time.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-05 19:54:45 -0600 )edit

Question2Answer (http://www.question2answer.org/) is better than Askbot, Askbot is very slow, poor management of karma; new users can not post a screenshot, if you do not have enough karma. with limit online users. sorry but it is ugly...

davidva gravatar imagedavidva ( 2013-09-06 01:24:55 -0600 )edit

Very constructive. Thanks.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-06 01:31:40 -0600 )edit
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answered 2013-09-04 02:10:00 -0600

anishjp gravatar image
  1. It would be nice if there is a "reply" button for each comment posted by members.
  2. I have seen that, most of the people doesn't mention their software/hardware specification when asking a question and hence we have to ask to update the question with the specification every time. It would be nice if there is a template that needs to be filled out related to the configuration before submitting a question! Details can be Fedora version, Desktop manager, version of the software, RAM, Laptop/Desktop make & model, processor, Graphics card..
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Another RFE for upstream. Please file one at http://askbot.org/en/questions and use the rfe and askfedora tags.

FranciscoD_ gravatar imageFranciscoD_ ( 2013-09-05 19:51:00 -0600 )edit

@FranciscoD, Done! :)

anishjp gravatar imageanishjp ( 2013-09-06 02:31:08 -0600 )edit

@anishjp the template would then need an option to specify whether it is a software or hardware problem, or both. because sometimes posting your specs is not relevant or useful for the problem.

muffin gravatar imagemuffin ( 2014-01-16 05:01:28 -0600 )edit
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answered 2013-03-14 06:31:06 -0600

Bucic gravatar image

Above all - quality control through moderation. The quality of, especially, questions is disastrous when compared to askubuntu.com, often not in English. People post obsolete comments and don't use voting at all. An answer with over thousand views typically has one or two upvotes.

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that why I wrote this question -> #8160, the problem is simple but complicate at the same time (we have some hit and run user) this type of user doesn't mind is he/she have to vote up or down they only want and answer and a solution for their problem, that is inevitable .. but we have to educate in some way first.

hhlp gravatar imagehhlp ( 2013-03-14 07:07:41 -0600 )edit

@hhlp I completely disagree. It's very simple and attainable. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1641204

Bucic gravatar imageBucic ( 2013-03-16 15:30:25 -0600 )edit
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answered 2014-01-20 17:06:32 -0600

nb gravatar image

It would be nice if we could just type in our FAS username and have ask.fpo automatically use username.id.fedoraproject.org as our openid

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You can click on the Fedora image in the sign in page. It still works although the latest update has apparently broken the image. Fedora infrastructure team is working on that

mether gravatar imagemether ( 2014-01-20 17:20:38 -0600 )edit

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