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fedora 23 freezes constantly

asked 2015-11-05 08:31:04 -0500

leydekker gravatar image

updated 2015-11-09 13:50:48 -0500

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I upgraded from 22 to 23 yesterday. Fedora 23 looks really good, but .... my system does freeze constantly. There is no other way than a hard reset to escape from this situation. A situation that never occurred on the same machine under Fedora 22.

My system: Intel Core i7-4771, RAM 16Gb, Graphics: NVIDIA GK106 (GeForce GTX 660). Display server: Fedora X.org 117.3, drivers nouveau,

Anyone out there having the same probs and maybe have a solution? I am unable to use Fedora 23 this way, and I consider going back to 22.

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Looks like 358.16 just hit the nVidia site (with Xorg 1.18 support!). Hopefully we'll see it in RPM Fusion soon.

MetaNova gravatar imageMetaNova ( 2015-11-20 15:46:50 -0500 )edit

I also experience random freeze up of Fedora 23 Work Station??

ODAHR65 gravatar imageODAHR65 ( 2015-12-10 10:10:47 -0500 )edit

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answered 2015-11-09 02:16:18 -0500

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You were most likely using the nvidia drive beforehand and are now using nouveau since the upgrade. I say this only because I've been in the same situation with 22 and it didn't work either and hung all the time, and I happen to know that the proprietary driver isn't yet supporting F23.

Nouveau is notoriously unstable with GK106 and I have been observing these same instabilities. The best I can do for you right now it to suggest that you extract the PGRAPH firmware from the proprietary driver because that blob happens to be more stable.

I'm tracking (hopefully) these issues here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug...

You need to follow the instructions on this page:

$ mkdir /tmp/nouveau
$ cd /tmp/nouveau
$ wget https://raw.github.com/imirkin/re-vp2/master/extract_firmware.py
$ wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/325.15/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run
$ sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run --extract-only
$ python2 extract_firmware.py  # this script is for python 2 only
# mkdir /lib/firmware/nouveau
# cp -d nv* vuc-* /lib/firmware/nouveau/

What is not included there are Fedora specific instructions, and info about getting PGRAPH firmware loaded. So, what you need to do is this:

$ # This is the instruction that tells the kernel mod to look for the proprietary binary blob.
$ echo "options nouveau config=NvGrUseFW=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau.conf 
$ # Make sure you have already done the firmware extraction above at this point. It does expect /lib/firmware/nouveau/
$ # Dracut (initramfs) needs to know about the new firmware
$ echo 'install_optional_items+="$(find /lib/firmware/{nouveau,nvidia} -printf "%p ")"' | sudo tee /etc/dracut.conf.d/nouveau_firmware.conf
$ sudo dracut -f # Let's rebuild the initramfs to include our modprobe.d changes and firmware
$ reboot

This won't give you perfect stability, but will cut down on crashes significantly. I can sometime go double-digit hours without hanging. I think most of the issues that remain are due to some aggressive behavior in kwin / plasma-shell

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Sorry I wasnt clear enough in my question. I wasn't upgrading using F22 but did a clean install upgrade, just to prevent probs with left-over software. But I did use NVIDIA driver in F22. Due to the low resolution boot and the visible startup commands when booting I decided to use the nouveau driver in F23. Without success though. Nevertheless a very interesting respons you gave. I certainly will test this next week. I learned a lot today. To be able to do some work I use my Tumbleweed laptop for a while, hoping to catch up with F23 soon. Thanks very much Xenitho.

leydekker gravatar imageleydekker ( 2015-11-09 13:34:11 -0500 )edit

Thanks for the info. I was having the exact same problem with my GTX660. I tried installing the nvidia driver in the repo at If Not True Then False, but 355.x caused Clutter to crash if I tried doing anything with a window (resize, move, etc). Pretty much every action caused my whole session to crash.

Also, I'd vote you up but this is the first time I've logged into this site. >_<
Update: Got my karma whooo.

MetaNova gravatar imageMetaNova ( 2015-11-20 15:44:37 -0500 )edit

Instead of switching to binary drivers, is there some way of completely disabling nvidia support, and using only the open source intel video drivers instead? Edit: https://desouradeep.wordpress.com/201...

seanf gravatar imageseanf ( 2016-07-05 23:00:32 -0500 )edit
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answered 2015-11-09 07:31:20 -0500

Kohane gravatar image

You don't say what desktop you're using, I assume that is Gnome. Just in case is useful to you, I've been experimenting some troubles with GTK3 that sometimes freezes the whole desktop. In my case is Cinnamon. Hope it helps somehow.

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Thank you for your answer Kohane. I indeed am using Gnome. After a few clean installations the problems are still persisting. But .. banging randomly on the keyboard out of pure frustration taught me there does exist a key-combination that can get you out of the freeze. Something like SuperKey+A (or neighbour key). I still have to find out exactly. It's a bypass of course but it can save time, prevent anger en redoing work done.

leydekker gravatar imageleydekker ( 2015-11-09 13:15:53 -0500 )edit
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answered 2015-11-05 10:33:49 -0500

askhat gravatar image

Check /var/log/messages for what's happening! I have the GTX650 using nouveau without problems, though on clean install. Have you always used that driver? if not clean your system of any other left over driver installs!

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Yes I did a clean install Askat. Several times in fact, but with the same result every time. Thank you for responding.

leydekker gravatar imageleydekker ( 2015-11-09 13:36:39 -0500 )edit

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