I installed Fedora 35 a few days ago along Manjaro KDE and Windows 10.
As Manjaro decided to behave stupid again, I wiped it and did a clean install of Fedora in that space.
After clean install and on live usb audio works flawlessly.
But after doing latest updates (which include audio related stuff as far as i can tell) audio devices can´t be toggled and sound comes always out of the wrong device.
So I reinstalled Fedora again and for now it all works but I guess just not doing updates is not the recommended way.
I am willing to give feedback if there is interest in. I´m thinking of doing so via the usb live system so I don´t have to deal with the issue on my installed system.
Just tell me, what you need me to do. I can follow your instructions, but though I´m not totally new to Linux I´m mainly a Windows user (due to online gaming sadly).
Related to this I would appreciate any advice/links on how to use Timeshift on Fedora (have it installed, but can not pick any disk space within it) or maybe a better solution as Fedora uses btrfs by default and I am not sure if that was the right decision for me and how to backup/restore system with this.
Don’t use this as it is a public forum and all age people see here. And you should not use this for any distro as the maintainers are unpaid mostly and providing a stable os without any bad practices. All member of any distro work hard to provide us service in a volunteer unpaid way.
For timeshift you can install it with
sudo dnf install timeshift
Now for update and audio stuff
There is no such perfect way to install update you can use any of those from commend line with dnf or from software center gui way do it.
Now for audio if after reboot your audio breaks. We can try to solve that particular issue.
For that we need some info
Provide inxi -Fzx
Fedora switch to pipeware wireplumber for audio and stuff so initially you can try to see if those services are running. systemctl --user status wireplumber.service
Edit: we have pre build a topic about that same issue for look up.
I agree and I know that. Was not meant to offend anyone nor Manjaro. Just a simple conclusion of how that OS behaved again and again in a randomized way sadly.
Timeshift is installed but it can´t see any disk space which is not understandable for me as on other distros I tested this was not an issue and I was able to select the backup path out of the box (a usb hard disk).
Great. I already looked into the topic here on the forum that is about known issue for sound and both workarounds seem not to be aplicable to my case.
inxi -Fzx on fresh installed local system with no updates so far:
Somehow you have managed to get the number 12 entangled throughout the posted output of inxi above. I have only seen this once before and do not remember how it was fixed, but this should never happen. Possibly as a symptom of the terminal emulator you are using and of the screen from which you are copy/pasting output.
Do the 12s appear on the screen before you copy the text or only in what is pasted here?
I cannot speak to the question about timeshift nor audio but this is at best distracting when trying to make sense of what you posted.
So. Timeshift installed. Snapshot created and updated the system. Back to main topic.
systemctl --user status wireplumber.service now gives:
● wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Wed 2022-03-23 23:34:44 CET; 3min 27s ago
Main PID: 2277 (wireplumber)
Tasks: 4 (limit: 38349)
Mär 23 23:34:44 fedora systemd: Started Multimedia Service Session Manager.
Mär 23 23:34:44 fedora wireplumber: Failed to set scheduler settings: Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt
Mär 23 23:34:45 fedora wireplumber: <WpNode:0x559890c0af60> Object activation aborted: PipeWire proxy destroyed
And inxi -Fzx seems to give exact same output as pre update. At least in the audio section.
Going into system settings and trying different audio outputs seems to do not have any impact at all as none of my outputs gets sound as far as I can tell. In previous installation I had sound from the terminal app coming out of one output at least. Now I think there is another device selected from which I do not get output due to not having audio hardware installed on all devices.
After looking up on the net, it seems to me there might be an issue with wireplumber
If I knew how to check, which packages where updated from which to which version I would try to manually downgrade some of them. But I can not find any log/protocol of what the software gui did and sudo dnf history shows only the stuff I did manually.
About that sound issue. Because for me it looks like the problem seems to be related to pipewire/wireplumber?! And therefore I ask if this here is the right place to ask or if I should ask somewhere else for example on the mentioned packages support platforms.
I do not understand what you mean.
For me it looked like you understood, that my problem is solved which is not. So no need to feel offended or similar (sorry if that term is not the best - I´m no native english speaking person)
I just seen a YT video yesterday where someone else has had sound issues on Fedora 35 but also on Garuda which uses pipewire, too. So that enforces my question if this the right place to ask for.
I installed “EasyEffects” with gnome-software and it has a test signal built in. If I overwrite the used output device it does work!
Atm the default audio output the system uses can not be changed by gnome-settings. Changing output device does not work. Closing gnome-settings and re-opening it proves this. Setting does not get applied.
Yeah… just upgraded to Fedora 36. Prior to this I had to upgrade wireplumber to 0.4.10. No sound after that still like with 0.4.9.
So I thought maybe F36 with wp 0.4.10 will work. At first it was a hassle really to get the upgrade even installed (different topic) but after that: nope - audio does not work. Downgrade to wp 0.4.4 not available with dnf.
Thought I´d reboot into F35. Selected it in Grub. Still booted in F36. Great.
No Timeshift has to do its work. Hopefully that will work. Staying on F35 I guess.
Timeshift restore finished. F35 back on track. Can not login anymore.
Guess I´m done with Linux. Sad.