Is it only me or new installer disk selection tool is really bad

I was going to do a fresh install because my window boot partition got corrupted and there is no other way to fix the current state other than to do fresh install… few more issues are there

the disk selection UI is really bad, setting a mount point there are no predefined options like in older tool you have to set it yourself and have no way to know if it is correct and how do you know you are formatting the certain partition and keeping the other partition as it is…

I think the older installer was way better and clear about the things you are going to do…Period.

You can choose custom in the installation destination and setup your disks anyway you choose.It’s pretty simple the way it is.

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Nope its not… choosing custom will only show ton of btrfs subvolume which is even worse and the new Gui lack option that specify what action will be taken, eg in older installer it was much more easy to choose mount options and if you can wanna format you can select a option and it will take care of rest

A simple method is EFI, boot and single partition for everything on one or several storage devices … otherwise you cut if up in small pieces as you like. Fedora installer follows Red Hat and CentOS Stream, before committing installation you can have a clear display of what will happen and custom option is easy to follow and very efficient. Fedora default uses BTRFS, probably not production ready for industrial server setup but incorporates volume manager making post installation tweaking easy … just have to learn about it.

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Hi,

I think that you are talking about the Fedora Workstation Edition Iso Image.
Perso I install first gparted ( sudo dnf -y gparted ) on Fedora Workstation Edition Live Usb.
gparted can ( should ) easely fix corrupted windows partitions : Just ask Check and Fix function by right clicking on the corrupted paritions.

Effectivly you are right : to my opinion gparted is lacking on Fedora Workstation Edition but, for info, gparted is present for instance on Fedora Mate Spin Edition live USB, very very useful.
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I don’t have a Microsoft account to begin with, i dual booted as I use Linux most of the time, i switch to windows only for gaming that is it… for everything else from development to browsing Linux is my go to…

Yes i am talking about the Fedora workstation iso image,
if you have used manjaro installer those old installer to me was more approachable then the current one, will use Gparted for now that will make things easy for me… thanks

it is not only you… :wink:

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Then there is only one explanation, community is filled with masochist hahaha :rofl: FYI Just a bad joke…

Well… if that’s what the installer provides, you don’t have much of choice :wink:

Yeah but its good to know, I am not alone… hahah

From my own experiences, the advanced blivet gui is way better for fine grained control of storage layout. Although it still won’t rescue a broken windows install.

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its not about the broken window install to begin with, but the advanced blivet gui lacks the feature that old installer had where it was super simple to select a partition and select the mount point from the list and choose to format the partition or not…

here an image i found on the internet of manjaro installer

And your point is? I’m not trying to be sarcastic, I just don’t see much difference other than layout appearance between the image you show and what I know to exist in the advanced blivet gui. Are you meaning that you want to make your system ext4 not btrfs?
So I just did a VM install with Fedora Workstation 36, and in the blivet gui I would need to add a partition to the disk that is listed. When I add the partition a popup dialog opens to provide the choices, which includes advanced settings such as flags for say primary boot partition. If I had started with an existing system I would be presented with whatever layout it had, which I would have to delete and create anew whatever I needed to in advanced blivet. If this checks out as “sane” when I press the done button, I get a message telling me what it is going to do to my drive(s), if it doesn’t check out as “sane” I can still accept the layout I created and go ahead so that is something to remember as it can be a good thing but also a bad thing. If you are doing this with BTRFS as the chosen filesystem (like default), then there are more steps since you also have to add subvolumes and specific mount points for them.
The link to https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/install-guide/install/Installing_Using_Anaconda/ in particular look to manual partitioning subheading for details about custom and advanced options. Perhaps you would find custom storage mode more inline with what you are familiar with.

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I will share images of different installer from my system that will make things much more clearer

The blivet gui is a good tool. You setup what you like, file system, partitions, … I use a laptop with only two partitions : EFI and XFS file system, that’s all, point. Another workstation use three storage devices and same two partitions with LVM. You can setup as many logical volumes for easy backup that is the point of separate partions being small devices on DEC PDP devices in the early heyday of UNIX as spin off from MULTICS.
Windows is something else, different with excellent CLI toolbox in terminal shell. W10 uses storage pool concept being RAID allowing to add storage devices mirrored or continuous transparent pool.
Dual booting isn’t really clever, use BIOS to boot in one or the other as Linux toolbox isn’t for Windows NT neither the latter for Linux, can be done but error prone with digital licence and telemetry allowing automated self healing connected to internet. Two devices is better as Red Hat needs an account with telemetry leading to additional services and connection to IBM Cloud like Windows to Azure. Works with Ubuntu LTS, frilly with Red Hat and derived.
Linux is an efficient industry standard tool, not free as Red Hat cost money like Microsoft and any high end connotative cloud service including databases with Azure, IBM, Oracle, … Please just stay up to date and forget G Parted => learn how to use LVM, file snapshots, … BTRFS as easy tool allowing to move, create, destroy virtual partitioning for small data backups and big maintenance tasks.

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I dont know but you lost me completely, You are saying to create a LVM partition and use it instead of creating a separate partition itself.

I used to use LVM before switching to BTRFS since it provided the journaling that is lacking in EXT4. LVM will use all storage devices and place them under one volume. It get’s a bit wonky I found when you need to increase a partition size for instance, basically you can’t or at least when I last tried it (LVM) was frustratingly in my way.

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The only two things that blivet-gui is missing from this picture are the pre-selected mount points and partition flags.

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The partition flags are basically useless nowadays. Fedora doesn’t support the discoverable partitions (we don’t even select GPT by default (yet)) and basically nothing in the system uses the partitions IDs/types for anything else than the EFI partition (which will be flagged automatically).

The mount point selection? I guess it depends, I always felt like a “free form” option is better for a advanced tool. If you want to have a /var/cache on a separate partition you can. But I guess I can add a pre-selected list of mountpoints for convenience.

If you have some ideas how to make the partitioning better, please tell me! I don’t read this forum often so reporting a issue on GitHub would be better, but you can share any ideas or screenshots here. I can’t promise I’ll implement everything (I unfortunately don’t have much time to work on blivet-gui), but I’m always glad to hear feedback/suggestion.

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